passage with me. He was a reasonably scripturally literate, very sincere pastor. His
incredible exegesis of this chapter, which he had obtained from his central church body,
was that St John the Baptist was NOT in heaven and was not saved! His reasoning was
that since the least person in the kingdom of God is greater than St John, he must not be
in the Kingdom of God! This demonstrates how crazy scriptural exegesis can be outside
of Holy Tradition.